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Quality & Risk Management: Beware of Black Swans!

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Brian Carlin
Brian Carlin  
3/29/2013 1:16:09 PM
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Re: New regulations and black swans
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netterjr
netterjr  
3/28/2013 7:06:41 PM
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New regulations and black swans
Would adding more federal regulations from FDA be able to tame black swans?

Brian Carlin
Brian Carlin  
3/18/2013 2:18:48 PM
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Re: Herding Swans
 

I agree with Alison that aving access to both the finished product and all of the raw material data would be a good way to improve the quality, both of finished products and raw materials, avoiding recurrence of the same quality problems in the absence of two-way feedback. Confidentiality issues may be problematical but a possible clearing house could be the PharmaHub database of excipient properties being developed by NIPTE.

http://pharmahub.org/resources/458

A.G.Raghu
A.G.Raghu  
3/14/2013 1:19:26 PM
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Black swans - reducing variability great challenge !
The importance QbD and Quality Risk Management is well described. Concentrated effort at design stage and proper knowledge management throughout product life cycle can take care of identifying the variables and applying correct control measures will of course reduce the black swans . The issue is more so in API manufacturing with where variability factor is very high. Especially the quality of key starting materials. Using Quality Risk Management tools at every stage to identify risks and defining mitigation measures will help to reduce variability . Efforts to be made to use the knowledge gained for preventive action. A proactive Quality Culture to focus on 'P' of CAPA. A.G.Raghu. Santhana Gopala Consultants. Bangalore, India.

Agnes Shanley
Agnes Shanley  
3/6/2013 7:29:45 PM
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Re: Black Swans have trouble hiding from PAT
PAT, better risk assessment, QbD, and a multidisciplinary approach to examining OOS incidents and other quality failures seem to be the best defense.  They're all connected, as you have shown so often, in practice and in words! Maybe 10 years from now they will be the rule rather than the exception, within every company. 

Agnes Shanley
Agnes Shanley  
3/6/2013 7:23:43 PM
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Re: Herding Swans
Thanks!  We're definitely seeing more sharing of information and more collaboration.  Unfortunately it usually occurs after a crisis, as happened with the heparin recalls. However, more people are discussing examples at conferences, and this is a very positive development for a tight-lipped industry!

 

Alison Diana
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3/6/2013 9:17:16 AM
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Herding Swans
Given the pharmaceutical industry's understandable penchant for secrecy and holding proprietary information close to each company's chest, are there ways that individual organization's share data from their own Black Swan discoveries? At least in a way that, perhaps, removes the sensitive data -- but is still useful to other pharma organizations? That would seem a smart way to help improve the overall safety of the industry -- and patient health -- while, simultaneously, reducing overall costs and enhancing efficiency. 

Emil W. Ciurczak
Emil W. Ciurczak  
3/1/2013 2:26:11 PM
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Black Swans have trouble hiding from PAT
I agree with the gist of your post. We do, indeed, have too many "gotcha's" in the industry today. That is precisely why PAT and QbD have been sponsored by the FDA. The sad truth is that cGMPs are a (minimum) baseline of what we need to do and are rooted in the distant past. They were fine for batches of 100,000 tablets, but not 5,000,000.

The concepts of, for instance, "three batches, then file" and 10-20 dosage units are sufficient to determine "goodness" of a batch are sadly outdated. Many of these concepts originated in the 1950s and have long been archaic, if not harmful.

The ideas of QbD, where you never stop learning about every facet of a product (embraces lifecycle management) are the only effective approaches to attempt to eleiminate Black Swans. (Of course, Border Collies are still good for Canada geese.)

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